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Posted by JJ-Dallas on August 23, 2002 at 03:47:33:

In Reply to: training??? posted by Joe Ord on August 22, 2002 at 11:59:15:

I've seen a lot of negative information about them on creonline.com. You can go there and do a search in the archives in the Paper and Notes Forum or The Main newsgroup forum. However, Jay Pino book is excellent for a beginner who doesn't know anything.

I hope this helps

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